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Title: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 15, 2008, 06:25:29 AM
REPLICA, DO NOT HELP. PLEASE. NOTHING AGAINST YOU, JUST YOUR SPRITING ABILITY.

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z5/redchaos87/FlemodusCalamus.jpg)
Credit to RedBicedipus.

Is there any chance someone could draw up some CQ sprites for me? :)

Lost Soul frames, but with 4 'ordinary flying' frames. :)

Thank you for your time.

Zorchdude
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 15, 2008, 10:03:10 AM
I can't help you with making the sprites, but I will say this. You want it to replace the lost soul, but the concept shows it firing slime balls, which means you will either have to DECORATE it (a good option, since there are decent lost soul alternatives here), alter the lost soul to match the concept specifications with DeHackEd or whatever other ZDoom alternative is available, or alter the concept in keeping the lost soul as-is.

ChexCommander is a grammar and spelling n***.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 15, 2008, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: Manny Cav on August 15, 2008, 10:03:10 AM
is-is.
You mean as-is?  :D

Hm, I haven't sprited, ever, so don't count me in...try asking Slime.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: The Slimeinator on August 15, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
With a basic sketch, I may be able to render it to the specifications of the Doom pallet and then use magical Photoshop skills to create additional frames. I would, however, need a side view (e. g. A3A7 sprite) and a sketch of the A4A6 category.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 15, 2008, 02:58:25 PM
lol, I'm not that bad am I?
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Captain Ventris on August 15, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
You could use Decorate to spawn the slime droplets at random angles. It would look much better than making them actually part of the sprite. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 16, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
Thanks, Captain Ventris. :) That's a great idea.
Also, Replica, don't even TRY. I don't poke your sprites with a 30km wooden spoon. They just aren't... Chex Quest. :(
Thanks, Slimeinator. Maybe you could ask RedBicedipus to draw you up the other two. :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Notiswas on August 16, 2008, 05:25:34 PM
I could do somethin for you if you'd like.  Here's an example of some of my work.

http://www.geocities.com/mnomenseries/wow.gif

http://www.geocities.com/mnomenseries/tile.gif

http://www.geocities.com/mnomenseries/mech.gif

This is all MSPaint work.

This stuff is like 6 years old.  I am much better now than I was then... These just happen to be the only images I have uploaded to the net at the moment.  I may upload some newer examples in a bit if that isn't a good representation of my current level.

I like the sketch by the way.  Very faithful to Chex Quest and the name fits him in an odd way.

Also, is there a particular "dress code" as far as coloration goes when making sprites for a Doom wad?  I am not familiar with the mechanics of modifying Doom and whatnot, but I believe certain shades and colors won't work in it.  If you can fill me in on this, and the dimensions, number of frames etc. I can give you a hand.

-Tyler
Title: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Batmanifestdestiny on August 16, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
That second pic is amazing
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Notiswas on August 16, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
Thank you Batman  ;) That means a lot.  That one took me somewhere around 3 hours I'd say, and then I used a simple blur option the program Game Maker 4.0 has, but other than that, it was all by hand in MSPaint.

One thing bothers me about it though, and that's that for some reason I decided to cut out a portion of the outline.  Don't recall why I did that...  but you live and learn.  Over time you get better and better.  Just take your time pixelling, use the magnifying glass A LOT, get used to using custom colors at slightly altered shades to give it a detailed shading effect, and have fun.  At first it takes time, but after a while you do it so fast and automatic that it feels more like fun than a chore, beleive it or not. lol

If someone can upload a template of the green shades the chex quest flemoids have, I can work with it and try to come up with a Flemoidus Calamus that fits in the game with a style as close to the other flemoids as possible.
Title: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Batmanifestdestiny on August 16, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
I used to be somewhat of a paint whiz, I made a ball pixel by pixel.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 16, 2008, 07:57:22 PM
I'm uploading an image of the colours you need to stick to now. ^^
EDIT:
(http://images.wikia.com/doom/images/8/8b/Doompal.png)
Don't use the colour of the numbers themselves, just the boxes.
Background colour is not white, but Cyan. :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Notiswas on August 16, 2008, 08:06:47 PM
Right on.  Which box corresponds to cyan?  Is it possible to send me an example sprite set of a flemoid so I can know how many frames and views and size of the sprites are?  I'll get to work on that as soon as I get that info if you want  :)  Sorry if I sound ignorant... I know next to nothing about Doom mods, though I do know Wolfenstein 3d.  Used to modify that game with a program called FloEdit back when I was 13 or so.


Here's some stuff I did recently for an RPG I am sort of starting up.  May or may not get complete:


http://www.geocities.com/mnomen_trinity/ruwayd.gif

http://www.geocities.com/mnomen_trinity/azbus.gif

http://www.geocities.com/mnomen_trinity/zafrude.gif
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 16, 2008, 08:09:39 PM
I'll get you a list of lost soul frames when I get back. This computer doesn't have XWE, you know...
:) But thank you for your eagerness.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: The Slimeinator on August 16, 2008, 08:17:36 PM
Color 247 corresponds with cyan.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 16, 2008, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 16, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
Thanks, Captain Ventris. :) That's a great idea.
Also, Replica, don't even TRY. I don't poke your sprites with a 30km wooden spoon. They just aren't... Chex Quest. :(
Thanks, Slimeinator. Maybe you could ask RedBicedipus to draw you up the other two. :)

*Cough* Actually, I have one for my mod already. Any, I do beleave it is Chex Questish. But whatever. :) Have fun trying to find another. You wont find many people interested. Or very good.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 16, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
Really, theres only one good spriter here...and alot of them who try. IMO, at least replica is trying.

I would try, but I can get NOTHING Chex Quest-y out of it...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Notiswas on August 17, 2008, 02:34:15 AM
Hmm... No offense to Zorchdude or Replica.

Replica, my intentions were not to jump ahead of the line... spriting is one of my passions and I've been bored and figured maybe my skills could be of use.

Zorchdude... The project sounds fun, but I'm gonna have to withdraw.  Thanks for the opportunity.  I don't want to get in the middle of this....  Good luck on your game, I'll be sure to check it out when it is complete. 

Replica, keep doing your thing.  My work has been laughed at in the past, but that didn't stop me, and what I do now blows the past stuff outta the water anyhow.  If you backtrack a bit, in Richie's old forum the Chex Quest 4 graphics were a topic of ridicule, and rightly so... they WERE bad.  Remember, when you present any form of art, you have to be able to accept criticism.  Otherwise we'd have a bunch of two-faces walking the earth.  The way Zorch did it I feel wasn't the right way... better to have been in private...  It isn't right to call people out like that.

Might I suggest taking comments with a grain of salt... If you like your stuff, then that's all that matters....


Sorry if anybody feels insulted, that's just how I see it.


Now I'm gonna go back to work on my projects, seeing as how I'm "not that good."   :D

Ya gotta laugh at yourself from time to time, otherwise you'd end up giving up on a lot of things.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 17, 2008, 05:35:02 AM
I thought it was 0. ???
Anyways, you can use cyan even though it doesn't APPEAR in that colour. :P
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: The Slimeinator on August 17, 2008, 05:53:07 AM
0 is black. ;)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 17, 2008, 09:56:10 AM
Quote from: Atariangamer on August 16, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
Really, theres only one good spriter here...
Oh, I wouldn't say that. I can think of a few more names than just one that fit your description. ;)
Quote from: Notiswas on August 17, 2008, 02:34:15 AM
Now I'm gonna go back to work on my projects, seeing as how I'm "not that good."   :D
I don't recall anyone saying that about you. I'd like to see you finish so I can get a better taste of your current work, if for no other reason.

I also agree with everything you said on the criticism.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 17, 2008, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: Atariangamer on August 16, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
IMO, at least replica is trying.

*Cough* eerrr. lol Lets see, Strife, Chucker... thats it. :/

And Notiswas, I'm not offended. Your advice actualy helped alittle. :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 17, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Lemme edit that statement. There is 3-4. Slime (can make things look CQ), Strife (hes an artist anyway), Chucker (the original), and maybe notiswas (I wanna see what he can do CQ styled).

Now, notiswas...do you have anything yet?
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 17, 2008, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 16, 2008, 11:46:07 AM

Also, Replica, don't even TRY. I don't poke your sprites with a 30km wooden spoon. They just aren't... Chex Quest. :(

My thoughts are with Notiswas and Manny on this, and I agree with what he said about criticism too.

But I thought that comment was rather harsh, Zorchdude.  Like he said, mabey a PM would've helped.  Smashing people outright isn't right, IMO.

But anyways, hope you get someone to draw up your sprites, don't want this to become a flame war...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Notiswas on August 17, 2008, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: Atariangamer on August 17, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Lemme edit that statement. There is 3-4. Slime (can make things look CQ), Strife (hes an artist anyway), Chucker (the original), and maybe notiswas (I wanna see what he can do CQ styled).

Now, notiswas...do you have anything yet?


Happy to help, Replica.  :)

Atariangamer, I'll start to whip somethin' up in a few min.  Thanks for the support. ^  Also thanks to everyone else for understanding and taking an interest.  I figure I might do a lil representation of an intro screen or something presenting the Chex Warrior and some flemoids... and maybe a couple sprites.  Give me a couple days at the most.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 17, 2008, 04:41:09 PM
Awww... :/

Why'dya leave? I'm unhappy. I've spent 8 hours being driven on wrong turns on the motorway, scrabbling around without a mouse and for what? This? :/

SERIOUSLY. Why does EVERY TOPIC I MAKE THAT I DON'T CLOSE GOES OFF TOPIC? ><; It's annoying. And then things collapse around me. I've been looking for ages for a suitible CQ LS replacement, and when I find one no one makes sprites for it. I'm ARNGY!
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 18, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
The Slimeinator made a pretty decent lost soul replacement that is used in his TNCQG2. My simplistic strategy is simply to make the Larva the demon (in other words, the Cycloptis and the Larva don't share the demon/spectre position), and make the Cycloptis the lost soul.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 18, 2008, 11:07:39 PM
You did make a flemoid ball creature.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 18, 2008, 11:13:29 PM
...wha?

I do know that Dvader made (or used) a few...his mod is always worth getting for what he's done.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 19, 2008, 01:04:54 AM
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/TTOT/ChexQuest/newflemoids1.png)

No offence, but I really don't think this is better (or even close) to being better then mine.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Captain Ventris on August 19, 2008, 01:16:08 AM
Where does the artwork for the flemoids come from? Meaning the art of the Quadrumpus next the Rampus sprite set? I've seen others like them, and would love to see them all! Some more examples are used in the CQ Generation 2 intermission screens.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 19, 2008, 01:24:07 AM
I know. That's why I hate MY sprites. I cannot sprite for utter crap, which is why I did not do this myself. Slimeinator, I asked RedBicedipus if he could send you the extra frames. :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: The Slimeinator on August 19, 2008, 01:28:52 AM
I asked him as well, a couple days ago.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 19, 2008, 03:27:16 AM
Could you atleast show an example? I'd like to update the wiki with an A8A2. :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 19, 2008, 08:30:52 AM
...okay.

@Cap'n: I really dont know...SOMEone got them somewhere, and all I've seen of them are the parts people cut out...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: Replica on August 19, 2008, 01:04:54 AM
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/TTOT/ChexQuest/newflemoids1.png)

No offence, but I really don't think this is better (or even close) to being better then mine.
I don't know if I'm the only one bothered by this or not, but please, let's stop trying to prove that we're better than others, that others are worse than us, or saying that "your sprites suck" over and over again without even offering to help that person. This has been getting annoyingly common nowadays, and I'd like to see it stop right now.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 19, 2008, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: Replica on August 19, 2008, 01:04:54 AM
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/TTOT/ChexQuest/newflemoids1.png)

No offence, but I really don't think this is better (or even close) to being better then mine.
I don't know if I'm the only one bothered by this or not, but please, let's stop trying to prove that we're better than others, that others are worse than us, or saying that "your sprites suck" over and over again without even offering to help that person. This has been getting annoyingly common nowadays, and I'd like to see it stop right now.
You're not the only one, Manny.  I'm getting irked by this as well.  Let's not make this a flame war.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Captain Ventris on August 19, 2008, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 10:07:32 AMor saying that "your sprites suck" over and over again without even offering to help that person.

Ah, I'm glad you made that distinction. Criticism is a very necessary part of artwork.

However, flaming is not criticism. It's just flaming.



In other news, I would really like to find that artwork, heh. It's really bothering me now. XD
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 19, 2008, 03:42:23 PM
Hm, yeah, I saw that the first time on the InvisionFree boards...I didn't know where it came from...I still don't...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 05:50:19 PM
What artwork are we looking for, now? I'm a little lost over the fact that several different pieces of artwork have been mentioned and posted in this topic.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Captain Ventris on August 19, 2008, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 05:50:19 PM
What artwork are we looking for, now? I'm a little lost over the fact that several different pieces of artwork have been mentioned and posted in this topic.

The serious looking art of the Flemoids, take, for example, the cut-in-two drawing of a Quadrumpus pasted next to the Rampus in sprite set by Zorchdude posted above.

Also, the flemoid art used in the intermission screen for Generation 2.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 07:13:56 PM
Ah. Pictures for all of the Flemoids like that, as well as Chexter, can be found, but they are of GIF quality, either because they were made as transparent GIFs, or because they were once in WADs. Are you talking about finding the original hi-res versions?
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Captain Ventris on August 19, 2008, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on August 19, 2008, 07:13:56 PM
Ah. Pictures for all of the Flemoids like that, as well as Chexter, can be found, but they are of GIF quality, either because they were made as transparent GIFs, or because they were once in WADs. Are you talking about finding the original hi-res versions?

Either or both. I'd like to see them, and if the Hi-res still exist, that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 04:53:12 AM
I would like to see the image of the calamus A2A8 image, not have a flame war! I am typing on an iPhone just for THIS. Seriously. I'm dissapointed. I'm wasting my holiday just for you.

I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 20, 2008, 08:16:59 AM
...?

For who? and why worry about it! unless you got a deadly deadline...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 20, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 04:53:12 AM
I would like to see the image of the calamus A2A8 image, not have a flame war! I am typing on an iPhone just for THIS. Seriously. I'm dissapointed. I'm wasting my holiday just for you.

I hope you're happy.
WHAT'S UP WITH THIS?! COULD WE HAVE 5 POSTS IN THIS THREAD THAT DO NOT HAVE TO DO WITH OR IMPLY FLAME WARS?  Oh my goodness, I'm sick of all the anger in this thread.

And Atarian's right.  Why worry about it? You've got an iPhone; you have better stuff to do.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 10:13:11 AM
I DON'T OWN AN IPHONE, IT'S MY DAD'S, AND I HATE MAC PRODUCTS.
And I don't have anything better to do. Also, I was asking Slimeinator. I am bored and I want to see the CQ sprites- I like to see things in the making.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 20, 2008, 10:23:46 AM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 10:13:11 AM
And I don't have anything better to do.
There's always something better to do in life than sitting around in front of a computer screen.  (An angry mob comes and tramples me  ;D)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 10:40:09 AM
I logged on a TV internet browser just to tell you this.

STAY ON TOPIC.

God! x.x Why does every topic I make stray? >.<

Also, I don't at the moment. Hate greek TV, had too much food, and the pool hurts my eyes. And so does the sea. This is my nothing-to-do pasttime.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Manny Cav on August 20, 2008, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 10:40:09 AM
I logged on a TV internet browser just to tell you this.

STAY ON TOPIC.

God! x.x Why does every topic I make stray? >.<
Because of confusing posts like:
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 04:53:12 AM
I would like to see the image of the calamus A2A8 image, not have a flame war! I am typing on an iPhone just for THIS. Seriously. I'm dissapointed. I'm wasting my holiday just for you.

I hope you're happy.
Now, I would like to tell everyone here: Get back on topic. No flame wars. None of this "your sprites are worse than mine" business. Please. Get back on topic.
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 12:14:21 PM
Well said Manny. :) I'm sorry about that other post. :/ I've just had a horrible flight.

When it's done who'd like to use the Calamus in their mod? :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: ChexCommander on August 20, 2008, 12:25:15 PM
Me, if I choose to make one.  I've created a racetrack map so far...
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 12:29:27 PM
Intresting, maybe put it in the lounge. I'd like that. :)
OFF TOPIC CAT NOTICES YOU HAS GONE OFF TOPIC.

...

I noticed Replica's made a Calamus A1 sprite. If he looks at this topic, Tell him I said it looks great! :)
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Atariangamer on August 20, 2008, 05:20:38 PM
O_O wow...I just saw it, then you're reaction.
"thats what you might call ironic..." (from some movie)

But if I ever made a mod, I would use the Calamus...even though Slimeinator's replacement is awesome.

Also, did Notiswas say he was gonna try it or what?
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Replica on August 24, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: Zorchdude on August 20, 2008, 12:29:27 PM
I noticed Replica's made a Calamus A1 sprite. If he looks at this topic, Tell him I said it looks great! :)


Thank you. :) If your interested here's a wad that contains it. http://files.filefront.com/Calamuswad/;11588041;/fileinfo.html
Title: Re: Any Flemoidus Calamus sprites?
Post by: Zorchdude on August 24, 2008, 05:00:48 AM
Thanks. I'll take a look when I get home. :)