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Title: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: Jimmy on July 10, 2010, 08:31:01 AM
Those of you who are part of the Doomworld or Skulltag communities might know me for my music. Lately I've been writing a lot of drum-n-bass style MIDIs, converting them to really meaty-sounding MP3s, and uploading them to YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/JamesPaddockMusic) for the general listening community to feed back on.

Here's one I've wanted to do for ages, in fact, since I discovered the similarity that ChexQuest E3M1's music bore to most drum-n-bass music. It is by a long shot my favorite music track in the game, with E3M3 coming a close second. XD



You can also download this from here (http://www.soundclick.com/jamespaddock).

Yes, I composed this from scratch using Cakewalk Express 3.02 (a program that's just about as old as I am), and then converted it to MP3 using the "Weeds" soundfont and MIDI Converter Studio.

(On a side note, the name of this track, "Departure", is one I came up with myself. Is anybody aware if Andrew Benson gave official names to his contributions to the CQ soundtrack?)

(Also, whoever is in charge of the ChexQuestMusic account on YouTube, I just sent you a friend invite. ;) )

So yeah, feedback on this would be great! ;D Peace.
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Atariangamer on July 10, 2010, 03:46:37 PM
Yo! Welcome to the CQFF, man!

I'm enjoying this track. Sounds pretty darn good, and in fact may be the first CQ3 arrangement, remix, whatever you may call it.

For pure midi (or actually, a soundfont, you said), this sounds great! Can't complain about much of anything I heard. Except for maybe some volume leveling, its perfect.

Also, you wouldn't happen to have the MIDI source, would ya? I do alot of conversions of MIDI to MP3 manually in FL Studio, and this sounds like one that would be awesome through it...
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: arch129 on July 10, 2010, 03:57:47 PM
Welcome to the CQFF!  :whale

That was spiffy!  I hope you could do E3M3 as well because that's my favorite song from Chex Quest.
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Jimmy on July 10, 2010, 05:50:45 PM
@Atariangamer: Thanks a heap for the feedback - great that you enjoyed it. ;D Incidentally, which parts specifically had volume levelling issues?

Here's the original midi if you want it:
http://jimmy.phenomer.net/music-files/departure.mid

@arch129: Glad you liked it. :) I've contemplated remixing E3M3's song as well, it might just do that some time. ;)
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Atariangamer on July 11, 2010, 06:55:41 PM
E3M3 would be cool.

And specific volume leveling...not sure. Just sounded like a few 'prominent' parts were not exactly out front at their respective times. Would require live volume tweaking, though...
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Atariangamer on July 12, 2010, 12:03:42 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?0m4yznnzgwj

This is my final render on the path I started taking on this first attempt.

I went a completely different way with the instruments, so IDK what this would be classified as. But its nowhere near as deep as his...and I'd blame it mostly on the drums I worked with, and the bass I chose. I went with a classic electric bass instead of a pure synth bass (like moog or something). It makes it a totally different song than the midi or his attempt.

Who knows, someone might like it, and I enjoyed messing with FL Studio again.
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Jimmy on July 12, 2010, 09:30:31 AM
I really like the way that sounds, Atari. :D The drums, and the guitar that comes in about 2:00 are very awesome. :P

The distorted guitar sounds a bit... odd, though. May just be my taste, however. Overall sounds great! :whale
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Atariangamer on July 12, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
Yeah, I would have gotten a different instrument, but at the time it sounded ok..

I've been messing with it more and am going to tweak a bit more. Might make a full acoustic version, full synth version, and possibly a better combo mix.

But glad you liked it! Its one of the first major remixes of CQ that I've been able to get a good grip on the sound. Mostly because the design of the original AND the remix were both as a different style instead of the kinda toony way CQ originally went.
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Jimmy on July 15, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
Just posting to let you guys know I'm working on the E3M3 remix. It's coming along nicely and may even be finished tomorrow. :whale

EDIT: I'll spoil one more thing. I'm calling it "Settlement". ;D
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: noob1234 on July 15, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
Awesome, both of you! and welcome to the forums, Jimmy!
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Jimmy on July 15, 2010, 08:27:50 PM
The track will definitely be uploaded tomorrow, to YouTube as an MP4, and as a MIDI to my filespace. It's virtually done (length-wise, it's about 3:45 now) but I will make the finishing touches/tweaks to it tomorrow once I get back from school. :P
Title: Re: [Music] DNB MIDI Remix of E3M1's music
Post by: Jimmy on July 16, 2010, 09:37:41 AM
Aaaaand here it is! :D



This turned out really well - I'm especially satisfied with the finished product (in particular, what the soundfont has done to the original midi).

Talking of which, here's that:
http://jimmy.phenomer.net/music-files/settlement.mid

You can also download an MP3 on this page:
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9406878

Enjoy it! ;D
Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: Jimmy on July 19, 2010, 07:59:30 PM
33 views and no comments? lol. :P
Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: Replica on July 19, 2010, 09:05:55 PM
Sorry, I've been sick.

I think they sound great; but I really have nothing to suggest because I'm awful at composing.
Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: 75 on July 19, 2010, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on July 19, 2010, 07:59:30 PM
33 views and no comments? lol. :P

we have a LOT of lurkers.

If you'd like some feedback, I'll give it to you.

- Intro - Not bad instrumentation, but the instruments you used are rather mild and soft compared to the flutes, and the changes in chords aren't striking enough because of it. It makes all the chords kind of melt together, which is way too laid back for what's going on in the background. It just removes some intensity that the piece really needs.  I recommend a keyboard instrument like pipe organ. I'd love to hear a rendition of the opening on organ. Something to really hammer out that great pentatonic chord progression.

-VERY Nice Bass and drums

-The techno notes in the background are a bit too short, it gets drowned out. It's nice when I can hear it though. I think you should save that sound for a light accompaniment, and give that part to a stronger instrument. During one part of the song the more powerful instrument playing that line goes away, and the short techno blips just can't keep it going.

-Guitar solo is ok, but not great. There were a few good moments, but not quite up to my standard. Very nice choice in samples though.
If you compare your solo to say, miranda's axe in legendary CTF, Miranda's Axe is far more fitting and powerful than yours. Yours just seems kind of like filler around the melody.

I have another recommendation for great guitar solo songs, although this was done by a live band.

Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: Jimmy on July 21, 2010, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: 75 on July 19, 2010, 10:33:27 PMfeedback
Hehe, cheers, mate! :P

Solos I'm still getting used to. It's kind of hard to make a really good solo in MIDI alone, but I know it can be done. Still getting better. :P

Nice to know that the drum 'n' bass, without doubt the defining elements in drum 'n' bass music, are nice. :P

The techno blips are kind of quiet, yes, now that I listen to it more closely. Maybe they should be the central focus of the piece, since they are using a slightly altered version of the original song's main riff.

For intro, I kind of understand where you're coming from, but I really thought that a mellow feel was something that the chords really deserved. Subtle instrumentation like that often works, although some may disagree that it entirely fits for drum 'n' bass music. :P Oh well. I kinda like the idea of using an organ, I'll try it out for myself and see what difference it makes. :)
Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: 75 on July 21, 2010, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on July 21, 2010, 07:32:53 PM
Solos I'm still getting used to. It's kind of hard to make a really good solo in MIDI alone, but I know it can be done. Still getting better. :P

I can believe it. Take your time, maybe sing the piece to yourself when you're cleaning the house or something. Try and improvise on it in your head, if you get something nice, write it down as soon as you can so you don't forget.

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For intro, I kind of understand where you're coming from, but I really thought that a mellow feel was something that the chords really deserved. Subtle instrumentation like that often works, although some may disagree that it entirely fits for drum 'n' bass music. :P Oh well. I kinda like the idea of using an organ, I'll try it out for myself and see what difference it makes. :)

If I think of it like a refrain rather than an intro, I really like it. I think the current intro part would be absolutely gorgeous for a middle interlude. Maybe in the middle of the song have it break down and go to that, and build to the solo lines? Then use that instrumentation to play that line for the rest of the solo (don't have it fade out).
Title: Re: [Music] DNB Remixes of CQ3 music (E3M3 is up!)
Post by: CHEX_MAN on February 10, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Well can you tell us how old you are?  The E3M3 music sounds like another song I've heard.  I played that game a few times.