Hey guys, I just wanted you guys to know that I'm still working on things. I posted this acouple of days ago in the chat, but I thought I'll show it to all of you guys.
Edit = Ok, this looks really bad in the Screen Shots, so I'm going to post the sprites themselves!
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6162/omcya1.png) (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4881/omcya8a2.png) (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5967/omcya7a3.png) (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/891/omcya6a4.png) (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7407/omcya5.png) /edit.
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9884/screenshotchex200903141.png)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3077/screenshotchex200903141s.png)
And I was pwned here. XD
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/263/screenshotchex200903141e.png)
Please note that there's more detail into it then what CQ3.exe make it look, because of it's rendering. ... What? You don't beleave me? >:( GRRR...
See for yourselves! Omega Cycloptis.wad (http://files.filefront.com/OMGCycloptiswad/;13465957;/fileinfo.html) BTW, the name is still in thought, I just dubed it that for now. You'll need to play it on CQ3, and episode 1 to play the test map. He's in there, he's just up top of the rock formation, behind the tree in front of you. So, what do you think?
Hey, the sprites look like your best so far! Keep it up! :)
It looks cool, but I haven't tried it out yet.
I like it! ;D
Thanks, I was really trying hard to imatate Chucker's style. :)
:o :o :o
You've improved! *goes to try*
There is no doubt that this is your best flemoid yet!
I really like it! ^^
Done. The pods on the side need work, as well as the pain and death frames.
The slime in the center OWNS. The slime balls it fires need a slight touch up, but other than that...
You win!
Easily your best work yet. The vents on both sides seem somewhat tacky, and the shading also seems a little iffy, like when it's turning, the side have just been squeezed instead of turned around, but I can't say much more.
T... ttttt... Tacky! :o :'( XD. I'm not sure what you mean by tacky, but you're right, it does need work. I plan on staring at metals from chucker's work untill I learn how he does that. I'm not sure what you mean about the smashed look though, maybe if I change the angle of the vent, or gun thing?
I tried it, looks good!
It should be the Pain Elemental replacement!!!!! Have it launch two flem mines at a time out of those vents!!!
Well, since you brought it up, I thought of doing that. It's orginal design was supposed to do that. I chose two out of the five to be made as a pain elemental, but I desided that this one will be a "Super" Super cycloptis. The other is going to do that though. Plus the shooting two thing was done in doom 64. :)
Edit, I've tried to remake the metal. I think it's too bright though. :'(
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7505/sidez.png)
Edit2 = Here, I edited the color in it to be darker, and I think I've got it. :)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8569/sides.png)
Edit3 :( = (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4230/omcya5t.png)
I think what Manny means by tacky (or at least this is what I'm saying) when he talks about the vents is that it looks to me like you simply opened up MS Paint, got the sprite, and drew a cross and a circle on each side. Then you darkened the green on one side of the cross slightly. It needs more texturing. And it does look like you kinda just squeezed it at an angle to produce the side sprites.
O_o Really? I just darkened the sprite in that area, and added the black outline of the vent afterwards. O_o...
Anyway what do you think about the new pods now?
I actually preferred the previous one...
I prefer the new one.
The gray is rather bland, to me. I liked the contrasts before.
The one before was a bit, as you say, tacky. It needed better shading.
True.
Try and shade the new pods more. The style is nice, but the color is a bit lacking.
Yes, Shading would be nice. Maybe a highlight boost too in Photoshop?
Maybe spiral side vents,that would look cool. I also think the side sprite looks too thin
Ok how about now?
From
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8449/ligsid.png)
to
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9415/daksidl.png)
It looks like's it been burned on the top and the bottom of the pods.
*HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS* XD
Thats because it was trying to make smores. XD (And it was in a way...)
You're probably not sitting close enough, maybe an ingame screenshot?
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6425/screenshotchex200903170e.png)
Just a tad too heavy shading, but an improvement...try varying the lighting in the map to see how it looks in high/mid/low light.
Why is the shading heavier on the top than on the bottom?
QFT.
And yeah, it seems like the shading went a little too much...don't make the tips black. Just dark gray/grey.
I used the burn tool too much. ;) I'll fix it though.
I still prefer the grayish one.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8449/ligsid.png)
That one.
ehh...I still wanna say a slight darker...
It seems like an appropriate newish shade of Chex Quest metal.
newish, yes...but i'm so used to the cycloptis...rather dark metal. the Biped had light, but it looks kinda weird on it to me...
Quote from: The Slimeinator on March 24, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
I still prefer the grayish one.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8449/ligsid.png)
That one.
I like that one too.
What if you just used a slime texture for the vents?
You did a great job with the slime in the middle, btw
It looks cool. I'll give it a try later.
@75: I thought he DID use it in some later sprites...or maybe it just looked greenish...
And yeah, I prefer that one Slime posted.
Quote from: ChexCommander on March 15, 2009, 12:56:28 PM
The gray is rather bland, to me. I liked the contrasts before.
Quote from: ChexCommander on March 25, 2009, 08:29:44 PM
And yeah, I prefer that one Slime posted.
Change your mind?
Well, I do agree with you CC. It does look bland. What I need to do next is add shading to the bottoms and tops (Like the last one I mad) but this time I'll do it by hand, so it's not so sloppy. (Aka by the pencil tool.)
Looks great so far! ^_^ I especially like your work on the slime texture.
I notice that the vents form a plus shape like this: +
Perhaps you could twist them a little and make the vents swirly? I think it would add to the style and make them look more authentic.
Also, if you're aiming to make the pods look spherical, try taking a look at a graphic of an actual sphere. You'll notice how there's often a white "dot" on the sphere where the light source hits, and from that dot, the color eventually gets darker as it spreads out. For a good example, take a look at my avatar and notice the shine on my bubble helmet. ^_^
Hey, thanks Strife! The advice really worked! Though, the pod doesn't look too good close up, it looks great far away though!
Here's one I did before reading your suggestions. (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1264/sideg.png)
and heres the one I did now. (I didn't add the vents yet.) (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2329/sidegv.png)
That second one looks much better.
Thanks. :)
Here, I added a vent, and put it on the flemoid.
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6332/daksid.png)
NICE! 8)
Quote from: TheMasterOfBattle on March 26, 2009, 04:54:21 PM
NICE! 8)
QFT!
I'd put the white spot in the center, though ;)
The shading is much better, but the vents still look like a last-minute-tack-on job, like they're not really parts of the actual armor.
Quote from: 75 on March 26, 2009, 05:54:17 PM
Quote from: TheMasterOfBattle on March 26, 2009, 04:54:21 PM
NICE! 8)
QFT!
I'd put the white spot in the center, though ;)
Um, why? The light hits from the top left.
Quote from: Manny Cav on March 26, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
The shading is much better, but the vents still look like a last-minute-tack-on job, like they're not really parts of the actual armor.
I'm not sure how to fix the "Tack on job", probably because I cannot see it like you do. Any suggestions?
I've figured out why it looks like that: you're just drawing black lines over the already existing shell, not a whole vent. You need to fill in those lines with something to make them look like real vents.
How's this?
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6332/daksid.png)
I don't think it would look as good if the white spot was in the center. It's really difficult to pull off the 3D effect while the light source is right in the middle, at least from my personal experience. ^^;
But WHOOOHOO! That looks so much better, Replica. ^_^ Great job!
Here's another tip: If you look at the official flemoid sprites, you'll notice how they have dark pixels around the edges. This allows them to blend into dark backgrounds more easily and also gives them a more cartoony feel. Perhaps you can take a look at, say, the pixels around the edge of the Super Cycloptis armor and try applying that to your flemmie.
Hey, thanks again Strife! :) It looks a lot better now. :)
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6332/daksid.png) It seems like the black line on the top right looks too dark, but looking at the Super Cycloptis' bottem, Chucker didn't blend as much as I thought he did.
O_O; Thats really dark metal...so weird with that light flemoid...any way to balance it out?
But the style seems very nice! I actually like the new vents.
I actually wanted it to have a really dark metal look, but if you don't like it I could spend another hour or two fixing it.
ehh, if the general opinion is up, let it go. I can fight it XD
Huh? Where'd my post go? It disappeared into cyberspace. I said the same thing as Manny about the vents. ???
The vents look much better now, but I'd agree with Atarian and darken the flemoid a little.
The Flemoid doesn't need to be darkened, as all of the official Flemoids are the same shade of green, more or less. It's the metal that might need to be focused on, if anything. Look at ye olde Flemoidus Ultimus to see what a dark Flemoid might look like.
I don't see what the problem is. Color is color, nothing should be lightened to fit another, say if I'm wearing black close, should I get a tan? Plus it puts the focus more on the flemoid, other then the pods, which is what I wanted too.
I don't think it really matters, either, but I'm saying that if this is a problem at all, that the armor should be the first thing to be changed, not The Flemoid.
Whatever. It looks great, so let's see it in a mod. :P
Here's a screen of the attack sprites.
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1156/omscrn.png)
@CC, I don't think it's quite ready to be in a mod yet.
Very good. Very good indeed! ;D
Mmmhmm, looks good.
You use PSP? Didn't you say you used Photoshop? Or both?
I got Paint Shop Pro...nice program.
and actually, that looks really great!
I have Paint shop pro 3 or something ancient like that....I since switched to GIMP and Photoshop...
I think what Replica said is that he doesn't have Photoshop..
In any case, way cool, Replica! You did gaff one detail, though: the center eye. You know how Flemoids tend to look a bit more angry when they're slimming or attacking? That eye just looks the same all throughout the process. Look at the Cycloptis and the Super Cycloptis to see what I mean.
Quote from: Manny Cav on March 29, 2009, 10:02:59 AM
I think what Replica said is that he doesn't have Photoshop..
In any case, way cool, Replica! You did gaff one detail, though: the center eye. You know how Flemoids tend to look a bit more angry when they're slimming or attacking? That eye just looks the same all throughout the process. Look at the Cycloptis and the Super Cycloptis to see what I mean.
Thanks, I see how I can fix the eye. :)
Quote from: ChexCommander on March 28, 2009, 06:33:50 PM
Mmmhmm, looks good.
You use PSP? Didn't you say you used Photoshop? Or both?
Well, I did use Photoshop 7, but the lack of a pallet made me change to PSP7. PSP is also easyer to use when going "Head on" to aply colors directly to the flemoid's forhead. ;D
In PhotoShop, I always use a picture of Doom's pallete and your friendly neighborhood Eyedropper Tool. ;D
Well, that works too. XD
Here, I've tried another "hit" sprite.
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2340/omcyf1.png)
Widen the Flemoid's eye, as if in surprise.
:o I did widen it. ???
Quote from: Manny Cav on March 29, 2009, 10:02:59 AM
I think what Replica said is that he doesn't have Photoshop..
Quote from: Replica on March 29, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Well, I did use Photoshop 7...
Owned. :P
And yeah, I think Manny's right about the eye getting angry. But anyways, good work on this flemoid. You've really improved on it! :)
Oh, I see it now. You just need to add some subtle shading to it.
Here we are! DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNNN!
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rokz2nzmfmm
One thing that's wasn't apparent in the pictures that you provided was the effect of the vents and the slime that comes from them shrinking while the "Omega Cycloptis" (by the way, I'm shocked that you didn't name it "Flemoidus Cycloptis Omegaus" :D) turns. It doesn't look all that great when that happens. Also, the little white line in the middle of the helmet dome looks rather sloppy. It jumps around while it's turning, and looks rather jagged in comparison to the white line with the regular Cycloptis.
Yeah, well, I'm a hypocrite. XD Actually, I didn't think of a name, I just dubed it that untill I could think of one, but really, that's a good name you came up with. The spiral slime is fixable, I thought it would bring a differant feel to it. (Maybe have it seek? :o)
You mean the shiny dot rigt above the head, or the helmet it's self?
..........I hope you realize that I was being sarcastic and that "Omegaus" would be an extremely sucky name for a Flemoid. :P I think the name you have is great. It fits perfectly with Super Cycloptis.
Yes, I was referring to the shiny "dot" (it's really a small line).
Lol, "Omegaus." That is a pretty o_O name for a flemoid.
Quote from: Manny Cav on March 30, 2009, 03:30:50 PM
..........I hope you realize that I was being sarcastic and that "Omegaus" would be an extremely sucky name for a Flemoid. :P I think the name you have is great. It fits perfectly with Super Cycloptis.
Yes, I was referring to the shiny "dot" (it's really a small line).
...I just glanced at the name, oh well, I guess you PWNED me. XD
I guess I could remove the white dot/line, or fix it alittle.
Don't remove it. Just fix it up, and keep it in the same general location, without it jumping from side to side.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rokz2nzmfmm
Edit... Sorry wrong one. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yjwjztmd2om
... DOUBLE POST!
What, you guys don't like it? Has anyone even tried it?
Erm... the vents still shrink and grow dramatically as the Flemoid turns. Just look rapidly between A1 and A8A2.
I think it looks funny from the side, I think it needs to look "wider" from the sides.
I actually don't mind the white dot.
I agree with Slime, the suprised eye needs to be bigger, if I wasn't looking for it I wouldn't be able to tell.
Nice work though, seems like you've almost got it!
Locking. Please view the new thread here (http://www.chexquest.org/index.php?topic=1577.0).