This is where you post odd Chex Quest stuff and projects scattered about on the internet that are just out there and don't seem to get any attention here.
http://www.freewebs.com/chexquest95/
This is Chex Quest 95, apparently, nothing more than the Doom 95 port with the Chex Quest IWAD instead of Doom-something. Since it's only the WAD that's different, it inherits Doom 95s "features" and problems, such as the Doom text and the inability to move one's mouse on XP and above.
http://www.scenepda.com/2008/06/chexquest-v10.html
I don't even know what this is, since I can't run either executable, but apparently, it's another Doom project with the Chex Quest IWAD slapped in. A bunch of other Doom material is left intact. I suspect this to be some sort of Doom RPG thing.
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/s60-games-symbian-java/6845-new-chex-quest-ii-wad-3d.html
It appears as though our very own Slimeinator has beat us to this one. Since I am not a member there, I can't know what it is (and apparently, neither does The Slimeinator, since he couldn't download it because of broken links). The screenshots suggest that Doom material is left over in this project, as well. However, there also appears to be some new stuff. Unfortunately, this project may very well be lost to time.
Post some other Chex Quest oddities, or discuss the ones already posted!
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:0RVPYAUEaf8J:www.cadetswdm.org/ivhimss/chex/archives/oldfaq.htm+chex+quest+floopy&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us (http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:0RVPYAUEaf8J:www.cadetswdm.org/ivhimss/chex/archives/oldfaq.htm+chex+quest+floopy&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us)
I captured this with Google. It looks like a crash page of the old readme of chex quest that was posted on the chex quest site back in 1997.
That one you said was a Doom RPG, yes, whould that possibly be a mobile chex quest? or a Doom RPG chex quest mod? seems like its just chex quest on the page.
What you found, Limozeen, is a webpage reproduction of the chexquest.com FAQ images by Lucius. The webpage was assembled by ivhimss, a member from the old website that hasn't been seen from in quite awhile, and hasn't gotten around to coming to this website, yet. His or her website was originally at http://www.cadetswdm.org/ivhimss/chex/, but it appears that the domain squatters got it.
Quote from: Manny Cav on September 20, 2008, 09:26:55 PM
What you found, Limozeen, is a webpage reproduction of the chexquest.com FAQ images by Lucius. The webpage was assembled by ivhimss, a member from the old website that hasn't been seen from in quite awhile, and hasn't gotten around to coming to this website, yet. His or her website was originally at http://www.cadetswdm.org/ivhimss/chex/, but it appears that the domain squatters got it.
Oh Knows the Doman Squatters! :O
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5007/aybpd3.th.png) (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aybpd3.png)(http://img186.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Shame so much Chex Quest stuff is lost in the Internets. : (
Ha ha ha at the picture! ;D But, yeah that's also the fate that iTim.2009's http://www.chexcentral.net/ faced. Sad, sad, sad....
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/s60-games-symbian-java/6845-new-chex-quest-ii-wad-3d.html
Out of all of those, this one I want to see the most.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/18/ask-joystiq-chex-quest-he-man-and-broken-360-gamepads/
Found this the other day. And they even linked to the Wiki and Chex Mania. (Not the forums, though...)
Thats interesting.
Quote from: arch129 on September 20, 2008, 09:44:19 PM
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/s60-games-symbian-java/6845-new-chex-quest-ii-wad-3d.html
Out of all of those, this one I want to see the most.
EEK! Chex Quest mod the Nokia Doom? AHHH! why don't they make chex quest mobile!
Quote from: Manny Cav on September 20, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/s60-games-symbian-java/6845-new-chex-quest-ii-wad-3d.html
It appears as though our very own Slimeinator has beat us to this one. Since I am not a member there, I can't know what it is (and apparently, neither does The Slimeinator, since he couldn't download it because of broken links). The screenshots suggest that Doom material is left over in this project, as well. However, there also appears to be some new stuff. Unfortunately, this project may very well be lost to time.
WAHAHAHA! I bumped a year-old topic just to post in there, and I don't think I'll be getting a reply any time soon. ;D
Quote from: The Slimeinator on September 21, 2008, 09:54:14 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on September 20, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/s60-games-symbian-java/6845-new-chex-quest-ii-wad-3d.html
It appears as though our very own Slimeinator has beat us to this one. Since I am not a member there, I can't know what it is (and apparently, neither does The Slimeinator, since he couldn't download it because of broken links). The screenshots suggest that Doom material is left over in this project, as well. However, there also appears to be some new stuff. Unfortunately, this project may very well be lost to time.
WAHAHAHA! I bumped a year-old topic just to post in there, and I don't think I'll be getting a reply any time soon. ;D
LOL!
<Not PG>
Original CQ INTRO on youtube poop
Does anyone remember Chex ZZT?
It was a project that someone had to make a CQ game for ZZT, a works-on-every-OS program that uses dos and uses ansii characters for the players and whatnot. Last I heard of it, it was still using the original scheme (top-down shooter) and the creator was bored with it.
Is there a webpage for it, or somewhere else where I can learn more information about it?
Nope, is was a quick fancy within some ZZT Forums.
No news on the Noeman Anomaly (Doom level, anyone?) yet.
Something I'd like to bring up here is the "Chex Quest 3 beta." Now, to what am I exactly referring to? Well, in material referencing the stolen Chex Quest 3 and even Chukker's Chex Quest 3 (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/09/12/chex-quest-3-released/1) reference a Chex Quest 3 beta posted at the original chexquest.com website before it went down. Does anybody know anything about this?
A CQ3 beta...on CQ.com before the stolen one and the official? wow...
I believe ya, but do ya have any of those 'refrences' on ya?
EDIT: Whoops, that link said it, and I wasn't lookin...
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...managed to bring some closure to the trilogy by finishing off the beta version of the game...
oddies, oddites, rarites.. hmmm..
Chex Quest was just release for General Mills sake. It's not like theres going to be pop-up merchandize, and Chex cereal released Chex Quest for an oddite itself!
..But I do remember of young age some guy was selling both light blue and pink t-shirts of the Chex Quest logo on it. I guess it was homemade with the Iron or maybe it
could have been some real Chex Quest Merchandize. I think it was limited homemade.
Quote from: Limozeen on November 16, 2008, 01:11:28 AM
..But I do remember of young age some guy was selling both light blue and pink t-shirts of the Chex Quest logo on it. I guess it was homemade with the Iron or maybe it
could have been some real Chex Quest Merchandize. I think it was limited homemade.
Richie tried to do something like this back when this new location was founded in January of 2008. He didn't go through with it because of copyright concerns.
Man, maybe we could e-mail GM about trying for a few limited edition CQ t-shirts?
[/dream]
It was only a matter of time someone till did this:
(Sorry about posting the wrong video. It is fixed now)
Quote from: nightwheel on December 04, 2008, 01:23:08 AM
It was only a matter of time someone till did this:
(Sorry about posting the wrong video. It is fixed now)
I'm guilty. :D
How do I put the wad into the game?
In GZDoom, you can take the WAD, and drag and drop it on GZDoom.exe.
In Legacy, use Single Map, and choose the wad, and begin.
And by the way, I remember someone else posting this a while back...what a great rickroll mod! ;D
Hmmm, I did that. And I couldn't switch weapons.
Could it be the fact I'm using ZDoom?
Nope. Lookie.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16178&start=0
And here. It was originally a ZDoom Weapon. Try redownloading it from the ABOVE LINK, NOT BELOW.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14773&start=150
Chex Quest won't allow weapon changes when using the wad. There for not allowing me to use the wad
Do i need to rename the wad?
You need to use the all-weapons cheat, IDFA.
Quote from: The Slimeinator on December 05, 2008, 01:35:55 AM
You need to use the all-weapons cheat, IDFA.
How do I enable such cheat? I tried trying it innto the in-game command window but no dice.
Make me wonder if my copy of Chex Quest want to avoid Rick Rolling at all costs. :P
You don't go to the command window. All you need to do is when you enter the game, enter those 4 letters and poof, you have all weapons.
Still no dice. I made sure to download the wad ChexCommander told me to download. And I did the cheat you told me to do.
I'm feeling kinda stupid right now since I'm a tech geek. And I can't get a doom mod to work.
Got it. Type 'summon chainsaw' in the console. A bootspork will pop up in front of you. Pick it up, and it's actually the Rick Roller. (Might wanna lower music volume if you wanna hear ol' Rick roll them flemoids.)
I got it to work Finally. The Slimeinator helped me over aim. He gave me the wrong cheat.
How ever I'll try your idea too Green Avenger. Just to see if it also works.
I remember one time I was surfing the series of tubes, and I found a website that was offering a download of the scifience CQ only if you made a 20 dollar donation.
...FAIL.
and akshully nightwheel, the cheat IDKFA is typed in w/o pressing the tidle key...same as IDDQD and IDCLIP. to do the same in the console, type 'give weapons' and it should give you all the available weapons.
it doesn't seem to be working, when I tell TUCQ to play a single map with the rick mod I just get the normal bootspork.
Thats becuase legacy sucks and cannot run it. You need GZDoom.
Thats because Legacy doesn't have DECORATE, not because it sucks. (Its the only one that can run TUCQ properly)
But GZDooM and ZDooM do, like Replica said.
I found this a Game Maker CQ game.
http://www.yoyogames.com/games/show/63843
I tryed it, it ain't that good.
:facepalm:
Anything that even LOOKS like its been in Paint is bad...
IDK
There are some times when you Need Photoshop, or at least GIMP, it's a very good program....
Anyone who tries to make models for decent looking weapons for CQ realizes immediately how lame paint's selection of colors and tools are
Lame is the word. Seriously, only 28 colors and no gradients or anything of the sort? Paint is seriously lacking, but I guess it's okay for very minor touchups...
And for games....yeah. Chukker made the Super Cycloptis in Photoshop, and I've seen some stuff in GIMP, and it looks quite good.
You guys fail it. Double click the colors in paint. ;)
Quote from: ChexCommander on February 18, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
Lame is the word. Seriously, only 28 colors and no gradients or anything of the sort? Paint is seriously lacking, but I guess it's okay for very minor touchups...
And for games....yeah. Chukker made the Super Cycloptis in Photoshop, and I've seen some stuff in GIMP, and it looks quite good.
There is way more than just 28 colors in MS Paint, the problem is that people don't know how to use MS Paint.
Look at this video.
Quote from: Replica on February 18, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
You guys fail it.
Ahem.Quote from: RichieREGARDING FAIL:
From this point forward, "Failing" people is not allowed outside of Off Topic Discussions and Forum Games. If a "Fail" is found outside of these sections, it will be deleted; no exceptions. Within these sections, it shall not be used to an extreme. Please be mindful of what you say to people, for some individuals take sarcasm differently than others.
Anyways, no offense taken. ;)
Quote from: arch129 on February 18, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
Quote from: ChexCommander on February 18, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
Lame is the word. Seriously, only 28 colors and no gradients or anything of the sort? Paint is seriously lacking, but I guess it's okay for very minor touchups...
And for games....yeah. Chukker made the Super Cycloptis in Photoshop, and I've seen some stuff in GIMP, and it looks quite good.
There is way more than just 28 colors in MS Paint, the problem is that people don't know how to use MS Paint.
Oh wow, a standard color palette with hue/saturation selector....I still don't see any gradients, filters, layer masks, etc. Of course, like I said, MS Paint is good for basic fixes/edits, making FAIL signs for demotivational posters and the like, but there are some things I just wouldn't choose to do in Paint.
How do you think they did all the art for the older games? They didn't have thousands of tools, they just put pixels together.
Anyone can create something cool looking in Photoshop...it takes someone special to make something cool in Paint. and guess what? Gradients, filters, and layer masks can be done in Paint. There just isnt a one-click-does-all button for it like all other editors.
STOP SLAMMING MY OLD SKOOL. I will fight back. ;) :D
My lovely paint creation
(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq189/Jwaffe/flemoid.jpg)
how on EARTH did they make good 3D effects? I can make decent looking weapons, but I've always been terrible at drawing people-like things.
Quote from: ChexCommander on February 19, 2009, 06:31:02 PM
Quote from: Replica on February 18, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
You guys fail it.
Ahem.
Quote from: RichieREGARDING FAIL:
From this point forward, "Failing" people is not allowed outside of Off Topic Discussions and Forum Games. If a "Fail" is found outside of these sections, it will be deleted; no exceptions. Within these sections, it shall not be used to an extreme. Please be mindful of what you say to people, for some individuals take sarcasm differently than others.
Anyways, no offense taken. ;)
O_o Sorry, I forgot. XD
Creating things in paint isn't hard, it's just alittle longer. IDK about any body else, but I use pixil by pixil art. (I suck though.) :'(
Pbp takes FOREVER. I'm a pretty impatient person, so that's why I don't use Paint much. I guess I see now that it has some potential. ;) (After Atarian gave me a stern talking to XD)
Quote from: Atariangamer on February 19, 2009, 10:30:28 PM
How do you think they did all the art for the older games? They didn't have thousands of tools, they just put pixels together.
Anyone can create something cool looking in Photoshop...it takes someone special to make something cool in Paint. and guess what? Gradients, filters, and layer masks can be done in Paint. There just isnt a one-click-does-all button for it like all other editors.
STOP SLAMMING MY OLD SKOOL. I will fight back. ;) :D
Hey, no slamming intended. :D
And that's true, that it takes someone special to be a Paint Master. And I guess gradients, etc, are all possible, but, once again, in more than one step, and I'm not the type with the patience to build model cars or make the Mona Lisa in MS Paint.
Note: Just looked up how to make gradients in Paint. Only 5 steps. Not bad. ;)
Quote from: Atariangamer on October 17, 2008, 12:09:50 PM
A CQ3 beta...on CQ.com before the stolen one and the official? wow...
I believe ya, but do ya have any of those 'refrences' on ya?
EDIT: Whoops, that link said it, and I wasn't lookin...
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...managed to bring some closure to the trilogy by finishing off the beta version of the game...
This seems to be a general mindset or misunderstanding, because I was browsing around for Chex Quest stuff for my website and came across this:
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The developer put up the beta version of Chex Quest 3 game for free download on their website (now defunct), along with a blurb about an upcoming Chex Quest 4 that was never finished. The game is complete, though, and no obvious bugs are apparent. In addition to the same wacky gameplay from the first two games, Chex Quest 3 includes new weapons, such as a clone of the super shotgun from Doom II, and several new monsters. In 2008, Charles Jacobi, a former team member of Chex Quest’s developer, Digital Cafe, completed his hobby project, Chex Quest 3. Five new maps blasting through the Chex universe plus five new flemoids and lots of great detail gives for a solid set of maps.
It's looking like they're confusing the stolen Chex Quest 3 and the real one, because the real one has nothing to do with the old one to my knowledge. Is there a real connection, was there an actual Chex Quest 3 beta, or are they just confusing the stolen Chex Quest 3 with the real one?
EDIT: I had to chop the link because it contained some questionable downloads (warez, in a word). However, they did link to the Chex Quest 3 (http://chexquest.wikia.com/wiki/Chex_Quest_3) Chex Quest Wiki page, so I linked them back there.
I think most of the sites think that Chucker just completed the stolen one. I had ran into that same thing on another website before. BTW, Where in the world do people get that the stolen one was orginally on the CQ website, and it was made by DC?
QFT to both of you. I think people thought that the stolen one was a beta, and now he finally finished it...which makes NO sense. There is no "super-shotgun" in the real one, nor are the weapons the same at all, save for the spoon and Mini-Zorcher.
And yeah, where'd they get this stuff about CQ3 and CQ4? I highly doubt Chuck did anything with the stolen one.
While on Google Images, I discovered some interesting stuff on deviantART. Look at what emilyanncoons (http://emilyanncoons.deviantart.com/) has on there:
- http://emilyanncoons.deviantart.com/art/Chex-Dude-114042826
- http://emilyanncoons.deviantart.com/art/Flemoid-114043532
- http://emilyanncoons.deviantart.com/art/LAZ-Device-114046942
- http://emilyanncoons.deviantart.com/art/Misc-Chex-Quest-Items-114048875
Can anybody spot the failures in these images (besides the quality, but according to her own profile, she's a beginner artist, so I won't hold that against her :P)? She strikes me as the type that hasn't played Chex Quest in years and is not even aware that a fan community exists.
Hehe I see just a few. XD
I lolled at the chex quest weapons picture though, especially at the super boot sport reading as super boots pork. XD
I didn't know ID made CQ. ;D
Quote from: Replica on February 27, 2009, 01:17:08 PM
I didn't know ID made CQ. ;D
This could change our whole existence!
LOL at the pictures!
P.S:On the subject that we had earlier about graphics editing, I did all of my stuff for [Project F] in graphicsGale Free Edition, not because it's better than paint, but because it supports palettes. For my next release, I'll probably do spriting and whatnot in mtPaint.
Yes, the id Software thing is wrong (they just made the engine, and even at that, we're allowed to do pretty much whatever we want to with that except maybe sell it without permission), as well as the Super Bootspork. Also, the Mini-Zorcher Recharge is referred to as a health upgrade. She probably hasn't played Chex Quest in years! :D Perhaps someone here who has a deviantART account (hint: The Slimeinator) can set her straight and perhaps refer her to this fine website for the latest goods and info? :)
I will... take care... of this anomaly.
I thinkg he meant the forums, not his site. (Which was a good idea, but you should refer her to the CQFF. ;))
I did, just on another image.
Oh, heh. XD
Heh heh heh. Yah. I commented on all of the images, saying something to the effect of "it was made by Digital Cafe" on each one.
Remember that mess with a bunch of web sites saying that Chex Quest 3 and Chex Quest 4 were either on or were discussed on the Digital Cafe website? Well, the final pin has been put into that coffin. Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chex_Quest&action=history) and look at the revision notes for 00:07, 24 September 2008. The whole story lies there.
This probably deserves it's own topic, but someone is selling an unopened Chex Quest game on Ebay.
Now when I mean unopened, I mean the cereal box itself is intact.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ChexQuest-in-Unopened-Box_W0QQitemZ120397014163QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item120397014163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A7|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ChexQuest-in-Unopened-Box_W0QQitemZ120397014163QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item120397014163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A7%7C294%3A50)
$2,000, no bids yet. :D
I wonder if it's still good to eat...
@Manny: OWN'D BY CREATOR.
@Tru_Dude: The price is too high...make it about 1.5K smaller, and I'd think about it if I have the money.
@Xbolt: ... probably not
Xbox Live? Since when?
Quote from: True_Dude on March 27, 2009, 06:01:23 PM
This probably deserves it's own topic, but someone is selling an unopened Chex Quest game on Ebay.
Now when I mean unopened, I mean the cereal box itself is intact.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ChexQuest-in-Unopened-Box_W0QQitemZ120397014163QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item120397014163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A7|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ChexQuest-in-Unopened-Box_W0QQitemZ120397014163QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item120397014163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A7%7C294%3A50)
$2,000, no bids yet. :D
$2,000 for stale cereal and a free game? -_-
The fact that the game is free on the Internet doesn't help either.
Quote from: ChexCommander on March 27, 2009, 07:51:48 PM
The fact that the game is free on the Internet doesn't help either.
Not to meantion it's illegal for him to sell it at all.
Quote from: Atariangamer on March 27, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
@Manny: OWN'D BY CREATOR.
Yep. I've already sent emails to Home of the Underdogs and Bit-Tech.net to have this erroneous information corrected. I've received replies from both of them. I still can't find a means of contact for 3D Shooter Legends, though....
Anyway, I think that guy on eBay made the starting bid way too high.
I mean, maybe I'd pay 10 bucks for it, possibly 20 if I feel great and wanna squander...but no higher. 2000 is the most ridiculous starting price I've seen for a box of cereal.
2000 for a box of moldy cereal with a game you can download for free. ><
Pretty much what Arch said, yeah.
Whoever put that on eBay is a bit too greedy, methinks...
2 failures:
1) He didn't post it here by himself.
2) Its too high for even its greatest fans to buy.
He also doesn't even mention Chex Quest in the title, now that I think about it...
Quote from: Atariangamer on March 28, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
2 failures:
1) He didn't post it here by himself.
2) Its too high for even its greatest fans to buy.
3) It's illegal to sell a free game...
Technically, he's selling the box of Chex Cereal with a free game inside it.
Quote from: True_Dude on March 29, 2009, 10:12:34 PM
He also doesn't even mention Chex Quest in the title, now that I think about it...
Quote from: eBayChexQuest in Unopened Box
The most successful in-store promotion in history Item number: 120397014163
Must...resist...fail....:P
Moldy cereal and a piece of cardboard with free CD...2000$...
DOES NOT COMPUTE. PERIOD.
That's really stupid. I still have the original CD, but if I didn't I might pay about $5 for it.
How much is he expecting this thing to be worth?? it's a free game
Quote from: 75 on April 02, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
How much is he expecting this thing to be worth??
Two thousand bucks. He said so himself.
Quote from: ChexCommander on April 02, 2009, 10:08:16 PM
Quote from: 75 on April 02, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
How much is he expecting this thing to be worth??
Two thousand bucks. He said so himself.
DUR
I win captain obvious! (Me, not CC, btw)
Lol. Hey, you asked for it. ;D
So, we all agree that the box of stale chex and give-away game shouldn't be priced more than...$20?
It means more to those who actually know what its like opening a box of cereal in 1996 and finding a game inside. Its just a pwnz feeling.
BTW, unboxings are awesome, especially if well documented. Someone documented their unboxing of an unopened Atari touchpad (for paintings and the like), and it was just AWESOME. (and lots of lols about lack of saftey warnings on the plastic bags)
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:40:15 AM
It means more to those who actually know what its like opening a box of cereal in 1996 and finding a game inside. Its just a pwnz feeling.
Yes, but the second time is never the same.
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
Quite good, I would imagine. I still can't remember the sensation of getting a high-quality game as a scot-free gift.
I loaned my CD once to someone and haven't seen it since, and admittedly, I'd like to have another one with the sleeve, but I'm not going to pay two grand for it. It's EBAY. Set a reasonable auction price and let the bidders decide what they're going to pay for it.
EDIT: By the way, I just looked at the auction. Ended on March 31st with no bids.
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
QFT, after CQ they were little more than playable commercials. Even the games you had to send 8 UPCs for. I remember that, I tried quite a few hoping to get something like CQ again.... to no avail, of course :(
Quote from: 75 on April 04, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
QFT, after CQ they were little more than playable commercials. Even the games you had to send 8 UPCs for. I remember that, I tried quite a few hoping to get something like CQ again.... to no avail, of course :(
That Cap'n Crunch game wasn't bad, though. I liked it.
Is Cap'n crunch General Meals, by chance? If so, we may be able to see about getting Cap'n Crunch or other General Mills stuff into the Chex Quest universe.
Quote from: Manny Cav on April 04, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
Is Cap'n crunch General Meals, by chance? If so, we may be able to see about getting Cap'n Crunch or other General Mills stuff into the Chex Quest universe.
Nope. It's Quaker Oats.
Quote from: matthias720 on April 04, 2009, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: 75 on April 04, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
QFT, after CQ they were little more than playable commercials. Even the games you had to send 8 UPCs for. I remember that, I tried quite a few hoping to get something like CQ again.... to no avail, of course :(
That Cap'n Crunch game wasn't bad, though. I liked it.
Oh yeah, that one with the backwards skateboarding challenge? That's about the only thing I remember about it.
Quote from: 75 on April 04, 2009, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: matthias720 on April 04, 2009, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: 75 on April 04, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
QFT, after CQ they were little more than playable commercials. Even the games you had to send 8 UPCs for. I remember that, I tried quite a few hoping to get something like CQ again.... to no avail, of course :(
That Cap'n Crunch game wasn't bad, though. I liked it.
Yup
Oh yeah, that one with the backwards skateboarding challenge? That's about the only thing I remember about it.
Hee hee, you mangled your quote a little there. I tried that game out from Home of the Underdogs, and it was pretty good, but didn't really keep me interested, and wasn't as exciting as Chex Quest was.
Quote from: Atariangamer on April 04, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Well, fast forward 12 years. All games and CDs in cereal boxes are just worthless pieces of junk. THEN what does it feel like to open up a box and actually get a good game?
Good, I guess, but you know what's coming....so it kinda spoils it.
I still have the original CD with the sleeve, and I put them both in a jewel case so they don't get damaged.
I wish I got it in a box...
Got it from a friend, and after it didn't work, I went searching and found Tucows (curse its name), then tried playing early Newmaps, which xbolt helped me get TUCQ and the latest newmaps (9 at the time). He and richie then made me my yahoo mail and CQFF account, which i've kept ever since (but the mail has gone due to an infestation of spam).
I got mine out of a box. I still have the cd, too. it's so unusual how it has a clear band around the circumference of the cd.
Oh man I was so excited about it, I used to play doom as a kid (FAR too early... but that's a story for another time....) and this was just really fun. I remember dowloading CQ2, too. That was nearly 13 years ago!!!! I can't believe it
Quote from: 75 on April 05, 2009, 12:26:18 AM
I got mine out of a box. I still have the cd, too. it's so unusual how it has a clear band around the circumference of the cd.
Oh man I was so excited about it, I used to play doom as a kid (FAR too early... but that's a story for another time....) and this was just really fun. I remember dowloading CQ2, too. That was nearly 13 years ago!!!! I can't believe it
Clear band? Mine doesn't have that...
I remember playing CQ and feeling the rush of adrenaline as a flemoid came up to you and slimed you. I remember those times when I wouldn't make it past E1M1, or could never finish E1M4.
I didn't download CQ2 from the official site...I found it around, say, 2004 from HOTU. That got me hooked on CQ again, but I soon forgot about it in a wealth of life and other games.
The thing about Digital Cafe making Chex Quest 3 (stolen) won't stop rearing it's ugly head. I just encountered it again on GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/home/928707.html). It's right there in plain text:
Quote from: Description
Chex Quest 3 is a Fantasy First-Person Shooter game, developed and published by Digital Cafe, Inc., which was released in 1998.
This thread in particular (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=928707&topic=41499313) on the Board (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/gentopic.php?board=928707) for Chex Quest 3 set my hair on fire.
Quote from: sheldonbunny
I myself was just looking it up today. I own the original disc of CQ, and downloaded the sequel awhile back. I had heard about this one, but thought it was fanmade. I was delighted to find out it was an official sequel.
Hair on fire! Hair on fire! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I naturally had to do something about this by posting this (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=928707&topic=48980114). I'm going to shoot this junk down each and every time I see it. Still, the thing about that guy quoting HOTU further makes me believe HOTU is responsible for propagating this myth.
EASY THERE MANNY!!!!
GFAQS mods are n*** about posts like that. I got flagged for trolling for saying something MUCH lighter than that.
I was just telling somebody off for spamming and I got modded.
It's your call, but I'd consider deleting and re-making.
Eventually all this Chex Quest 3 Stolen mix up will be fixed.
Quote from: Manny Cav on April 08, 2009, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: sheldonbunny
I myself was just looking it up today. I own the original disc of CQ, and downloaded the sequel awhile back. I had heard about this one, but thought it was fanmade. I was delighted to find out it was an official sequel.
Hair on fire! Hair on fire! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
LOL XD
Quote from: 75 on April 08, 2009, 07:56:47 PM
EASY THERE MANNY!!!!
GFAQS mods are n*** about posts like that. I got flagged for trolling for saying something MUCH lighter than that.
I was just telling somebody off for spamming and I got modded.
It's your call, but I'd consider deleting and re-making.
Calling spam out and this are a bit different. I don't know what you did exactly (and I don't care for you to show me), but they really don't have any defense against me if they decide they don't want to be told they messed up. I already showed them what one of the creators had to say about it. I shouldn't need anything more than that.
Thats good you're trying. But it still contains Digital Cafe content. Unless you want to say its Digital Cafe edited by Charles Jacobi containing new content from Charles Jacobi and Andrew Benson.
But I see where you're comming from. Digital Cafe is no more, and this was a fun trip back for 2 or 3 of the members, not the whole crew. So, yeah.
I believe the object in question is the STOLEN CQ3, AG...
It just sounded a bit strong, idk... I definitely agree something has to be done, though
Quote from: The Green Avenger on April 08, 2009, 11:09:01 PM
I believe the object in question is the STOLEN CQ3, AG...
Correct.
Quote from: 75 on April 08, 2009, 11:15:14 PM
It just sounded a bit strong, idk... I definitely agree something has to be done, though
It's not strong, but it's to-the-point. The topic title is the real attention getter. I'm not sure if I did myself any favors putting three exclamation points at the end. I wouldn't be surprised to be gotten for that, if nothing else.
EDIT: I looked at the message board TOS, and there's a nice little bit there about "excessive punctuation" in topic titles. I deleted the topic, and remade it with the two extra exclamation points removed in the title, but with the same post content.
Quote from: Manny Cav on April 09, 2009, 12:25:48 AM
EDIT: I looked at the message board TOS, and there's a nice little bit there about "excessive punctuation" in topic titles.
That's a good rule of thumb for posting
anywhere, even if the rules don't explicitly state it.
Another chapter into the making of Chex Quest 3 has been 'discovered.'
Perhaps y'all remember when I made this (http://www.chexquest.org/index.php?topic=835.0) topic in an effort to find a Chex Quest 3 installer that I wasn't even 100% sure existed. Well, I was doing some snooping--a LOT of snooping, and hardcore snooping, at that--to dig up old stuff and information for my website, and came across this (http://web.archive.org/web/20040713043426/chexmania.tripod.com/downloads.htm) at archive.org. It would seem as though there was an older file called Chex3BETA.zip. This was taken down by the owner of Chex Quest Mania on December 05, 2004 when he discovered that the content was taken from other WADs. I also remember the Demos download having a Chex Quest 3 demo, which must have been removed then, as well. The name of the file is different from the HOTU name of chexquest3.zip.
This supports my statement that HOTU didn't upload the original download of Chex Quest 3, but altered stuff and removed an original installer. Unfortunately, this removal of Chex3BETA.zip has complicated my mission of preserving old Chex Quest stuff, as I still can't find a download of this particular file, or even a hint at what the original download website of Chex Quest 3 might be (www.chexquest.net is suggested, but I've found nothing to back that up). I also remember reading about a thread on the old forums stating that someone faked being the Chex Quest 3 creator, but recanted under fire.
Does anybody here know anything about a Chex3BETA.zip, where the original website for it was, or a thread like the one I mentioned?
Oh wow Manny, you're quite an internet detective on all things CQ-related. ;)
Hmm, I'm not sure if I even HAD CQ3 back then, and that seems an awful long time ago...who owned CQ Mania, anyways? Is there any way to contact them?
The story on that is not good, either.
Someone like Richie or Loremaster who's been here from practically the VERY beginning could answer better, but the gist of it is that the owner of Chex Quest Mania made the first Chex Quest forums that were closed for some odd reason, prompting Richie to give a shot at it. There was quite a bit of confusion surrounding the creator of Chex Quest Mania due to some impersonating, but the creator was believed to be someone with the name "Chex Warrior" on the old forums. A record of this stuff can be found here (http://invisionfree.com/forums/chexquestforums/index.php?showtopic=233), when someone under the name "Chex_Warrior" states his return, gets called the creator of a big-time website, then plays off of that assumption and causes some confusion, only for the real "Chex Warrior" to post later.
Unfortunately, even back then, it was well known that the email address at his own website (http://chexmania.tripod.com/feedback.htm) didn't work, and it still doesn't, because I tried it several months back and the email bounced. I'd really like to get into contact with this guy, as well, but I just don't know how to do it.
Weird. Those are all archives obviously, but is there a way to access profile information? Maybe some IP tracking could narrow it down.
That might would help, but there's the possibility that Chex Warrior's IP address in his post there has expired, and I don't have access to the IP addresses there, anyway. I'll see if I can get an administrator's help.
You know something that bothers me? There's no official date the game was originally released. I've seen both 1997 and 1996, but no date associated with them. I don't even know what quarter of 96 it came out in!
It's stupid, I know, but I don't know for sure myself. xbolt told me 1997, so I just took his word for it and put that on my website. 1996 made sense, though, because of all of the copyright notices on the material and the fact that the latest file modify date I could get on any file on the CD was SETUP.EXE on Monday, November 11, 1996, 11:35:20 AM.
When in doubt, ask Chukker!
Good idea. I'll give him a shout.
I *THOUGHT* it was released 4th quarter '96, making lots of sales for the '97 year (after fresh boxes arrived with CQ in them and were placed on the shelves). If ya think about it, the cereal has a long shelf life, but by the time it is put up for sale, its only got a month till the "Sell By" date. So if the shipments arrived late '96, they might not have hit everywhere till early '97, making xbolt's claim valid.
...or I could just have no idea what i"m talkin bout. :D
Quote from: wiweeyum on April 14, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
Weird. Those are all archives obviously, but is there a way to access profile information? Maybe some IP tracking could narrow it down.
An update to this: I now have Chex Warrior's IP address in his post here (http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/chexquestforums/index.php?showtopic=233&view=findpost&p=1110369). The problem is that I'm a noob at IP tracking. I have the Domain Dossier (http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx) on standby, but I have no idea how to use it to get a proper email address. :D Can somebody help?
Haha! I'm a noob at IP's as well. I was hoping that since you were amazing at everything else 'internet detective', you'd know about that as well.
I guess it's time for IP 101. I'll post what I find.
There are too many options at the Domain Dossier for me to sort out what I'm looking for. Again, I'm either going to need a guide or someone else to do this for me.
By the way, I sent another email to chexwarrior@: s p a m b e g o n e :hotmail.com, found here (http://chexmania.tripod.com/feedback.htm). The first one I sent on Feb 11, 2008 11:51 AM bounced because of, "550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable," but this second one went through. I've seen it happen where an email would bounce because of a full inbox or some other error, then a later email would make it through. However, it's also possible that there's a new person using that address, and they just got a "wrong email," so to speak. I'm curious as to how this will turn out.
I think Brain Candy knows a lot about IP tracking.
You're right on that. ;) Still, I'm trying to learn this for myself if I can.
Quote from: Manny Cav on April 15, 2009, 10:23:24 AM
You're right on that. ;) Still, I'm trying to learn this for myself if I can.
OH NO! MANNY IS GONNA TRACK US ALL DOWN!!! :o
Only the Admins can do IP Tracking, if I remember correctly. ;)
Well, only Admins can see the IP address on the current board. He's diving into lost territory to dig up what he can. Plus, if you have an IP, you can track it with the right tools.
Manny knows how to get the goods. ;D
Say, I was browsin' teh interwebz, and look at this oddity of music I came across.
http://www.animalswithinanimals.com/stallio_-_chex_squadron.mp3
Entitled "Chex Squadron vs. The Cereal Eaters," it's some weird stuff. Not really music, but experimental music.
Y'kno, it sounds like he tried running the intro movie while recording its soundtrack, and live mixing it on a PentiumI running 3.1. I thought I had heard that stutter before...
but thats O_o as all getout
I downloaded the MP3. It sounded horrible, with the intro video overlaid with all of that other stuff.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080316161118AA029QH
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080327150829AAhWP6j
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080715180302AAY6SfF
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081102142047AAHA54R
Look at all of the fail on Yahoo! Answers. The amount of sheer ignorance on the subject of Chex Quest by the masses is astounding. One supposed good Samaritan went so far as to tell someone that they should download Chex Quest at http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/, which is a rip-off site that hotlinks off of Home of the Underdogs, and makes you pay for it, as well. Another suggested torrent sites, blah blah blah. It's just terrible.
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 10:19:22 PM
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080316161118AA029QH
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080327150829AAhWP6j
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080715180302AAY6SfF
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081102142047AAHA54R
Look at all of the fail on Yahoo! Answers. The amount of sheer ignorance on the subject of Chex Quest by the masses is astounding. One supposed good Samaritan went so far as to tell someone that they should download Chex Quest at http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/, which is a rip-off site that hotlinks off of Home of the Underdogs, and makes you pay for it, as well. Another suggest torrent sites, blah blah blah. It's just terrible.
Quote For FAIL
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 10:19:22 PM
...as well. Another suggested torrent sites, blah blah blah. It's just terrible.
Of course I would use a torrent to get a free game. :P
But why not just download it at the developer's website (http://www.chucktropolis.com/gamers.htm), or from my humble abode (http://www.chexquest.org/chexquestgallery/), where you can download an image of the CD in a relatively small download? :P Why resort to downloading bittorrent clients and going to websites with pirate in the name?
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
But why not just download it at the developer's website (http://www.chucktropolis.com/gamers.htm), or from my humble abode (http://www.chexquest.org/chexquestgallery/), where you can download an image of the CD in a relatively small download? :P Why resort to downloading bittorrent clients and going to websites with pirate in the name?
Because it's there! Seriously though, most people have probably never thought of a CQ community. It's their loss, really.
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
Why resort to downloading bittorrent clients and going to websites with pirate in the name?
If I had to guess, I would bet that those people are already intimately familiar with torrent programs, if ya know what I mean.
Quote from: xbolt on May 19, 2009, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
Why resort to downloading bittorrent clients and going to websites with pirate in the name?
If I had to guess, I would bet that those people are already intimately familiar with torrent programs, if ya know what I mean.
I know exactly what you mean. They've got a terabyte worth of warez already, and it's hardcoded into their thinking. They think, "Wow, Chex Quest was a great game! Where can I download it for free?" Naturally, those websites immediately come straight to mind, and they run straight to them without even consulting Google, or using strange search terms like "chex quest warez," "chex quest torrent," etc. Pitful. I wonder how many members, activity, and overall knowledge this restricted sight has cost us and them....
There was a single good reply on the fourth link, I voted best answer, it was the ONLY reply of any of the topics that actually directed people to our site.
One of the links directed to the dead TUCQ site....
quickie...manny said "warze"!
but yeah, thats sad...>< though at least its actually a LEGAL download from the torrent site...
Quote from: Atariangamer on May 21, 2009, 07:12:05 PM
quickie...manny said "warze"!
It's a mental thing. When I say it in my mind, I say it like "warze," so it's natural to come out that way. I actually wrote it both "warze" and "warez." :P Keep that in mind the next time you decide to NITPICK.
Running CQ3 in DOS!?!? is that Chukker's or the stolen one? and why would anybody want to do that anyway when computers nowadays are so much better?
Quote from: Datra on May 21, 2009, 10:24:04 PM
Running CQ3 in DOS!?!? is that Chukker's or the stolen one? and why would anybody want to do that anyway when computers nowadays are so much better?
To show off their awesome computer skillz. And also, because it's there.
Quote from: Datra on May 21, 2009, 10:24:04 PM
Running CQ3 in DOS!?!? is that Chukker's or the stolen one? and why would anybody want to do that anyway when computers nowadays are so much better?
The stolen one for a surety. The reason they're trying to do it is because the stupid text file that came with Chex Quest 3 (stolen) mentioned DOS.
Zdoom is available for dos...but idk if its the most recent version.
Quote from: xbolt on May 19, 2009, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav on May 19, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
Why resort to downloading bittorrent clients and going to websites with pirate in the name?
If I had to guess, I would bet that those people are already intimately familiar with torrent programs, if ya know what I mean.
What I find to be the most epic fail is that these people don't even think about using their resources. Whenever I'm curious about something or another, I take a quick google search, glance at the wikipedia page (if there is one), and then proceed to find out more about the item. I doubt these people even think about using google.
Okay, real quick, since I noticed that the year confusion came up again at about page 9.
Chex Quest came out in May of 1996, 'nuff said. The scary thing is that I remember that even though I was 3 at the time 0_o (that shows how much CQ changed my life, I guess ;D)
The file modify date for chex.wad on my end is October 31, 1996, 6:44:40 PM, so unless the makers of chex.wad worked on messed up computers or somehow messed with the dates, you time doesn't make sense to me.
Manny, have you thought about the fact that that may have been the date you installed CQ on your computer?
Quote from: ChexCommander on June 28, 2009, 03:38:34 PM
Manny, have you thought about the fact that that may have been the date you installed CQ on your computer?
No, I have the same date. That's why for the tenth anniversary, we were working to get the wad done by Halloween.
Ah, alright. Wasn't sure. Hmm....why don't we ask Charles Jacobi?
Quote from: ChexCommander on June 28, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
Ah, alright. Wasn't sure. Hmm....why don't we ask Charles Jacobi?
If I remember correctly, I already tried that. He couldn't really help me any.
Stolen Chex quest is on home of the underdogs!
http://www.hotud.org/component/content/article/43-action/22658
They don't have the offical CQ3, though. they messed up some things about CQ3: Stolen, too. It wasn't made by digital cafe.
Quote from: 75 on December 20, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
Stolen Chex quest is on home of the underdogs!
http://www.hotud.org/component/content/article/43-action/22658
They don't have the offical CQ3, though. they messed up some things about CQ3: Stolen, too. It wasn't made by digital cafe.
Old news. ;)
I think this is where I first discovered the stolen CQ3.
Do any of you even have the original CD? Cuz I do.
Just wondering. :P
Quote from: mob720 on December 21, 2009, 02:20:29 AM
Do any of you even have the original CD? Cuz I do.
Just wondering. :P
*raises hand*
That's cool. I have it lying around in my desk somewhere, dont have the sleeve though. Well, I might. IDK.
I got it (since I was only about 1 when CQ came out) is my grandparents actually bought the Chex with the CD in it, gave that to my dad, who in turn gave it to me sometime back when I dont even remember. But I do remember playing it over and over and over and over and over to no end. And I had fun every single time!
I also played a lot of Lode Runner if any of you know about it.
Quote from: mob720 on December 21, 2009, 02:26:10 AM
I got it (since I was only about 1 when CQ came out) is my grandparents actually bought the Chex with the CD in it, gave that to my dad, who in turn gave it to me sometime back when I dont even remember. But I do remember playing it over and over and over and over and over to no end. And I had fun every single time!
That's just about an exact copypasta of my story. XD
But I put the CD in an actual jewelcase, and used the sleeve as a cover insert. :D
Lode Runner? *raises hand* I've played it. (My dad has an original Atari cartridge!)
Not quite the same. I got my CD from my parents; not from my grandparents. To answer your question, yes, I do have the CD.
Quote from: matthias720 on December 21, 2009, 02:54:25 AM
Lode Runner? *raises hand* I've played it. (My dad has an original Atari cartridge!)
Nice! I have (had, rather) the version made for Compaq Presario PCs back in late 1990s. Then I downloaded Lode Runner Online back a couple years ago, but lost my levels from my HDD crash :( I think I have the bulk of them on ye olde family PC.
Sorry for being off topic! :facepalm
Glad to know others out there have an original!
Quote from: xbolt on December 21, 2009, 02:28:40 AM
Quote from: mob720 on December 21, 2009, 02:26:10 AM
I got it (since I was only about 1 when CQ came out) is my grandparents actually bought the Chex with the CD in it, gave that to my dad, who in turn gave it to me sometime back when I dont even remember. But I do remember playing it over and over and over and over and over to no end. And I had fun every single time!
That's just about an exact copypasta of my story. XD
But I put the CD in an actual jewelcase, and used the sleeve as a cover insert. :D
Me too! I put it in a jewelcase to preserve the awesomeness. XD
But yeah, my dad got it in a cereal box, and he thought I'd like it. :D
Quote from: ChexCommander on December 21, 2009, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: xbolt on December 21, 2009, 02:28:40 AM
Quote from: mob720 on December 21, 2009, 02:26:10 AM
I got it (since I was only about 1 when CQ came out) is my grandparents actually bought the Chex with the CD in it, gave that to my dad, who in turn gave it to me sometime back when I dont even remember. But I do remember playing it over and over and over and over and over to no end. And I had fun every single time!
That's just about an exact copypasta of my story. XD
But I put the CD in an actual jewelcase, and used the sleeve as a cover insert. :D
Me too! I put it in a jewelcase to preserve the awesomeness. XD
So did we. In fact, it's within arm's reach in a CD tower right now.
I'm still confused as to where I first saw CQ...I'm pretty sure this is the right story...
The first hands on experience I got with it was in about 2005, when a friend gave me a backup copy he had...I forgot about it till about 2007, when I found the Tucows Version with CQ2 (complete with 50% DooM!). I went looking for more levels, and found...Xbolt'z 10th Anniversary wad. Couldn't get it working, so I went to the CQ Wiki to ask for help one day. He replied, and eventually became friends...I wanted to post some early levels on the forums, but at the time couldn't get an email (because I thought it only came with your internet service at the time) to register an account. So thats when Richie created my original email and registered my account on the old boards. almost 2 years later, here I am.
Have you played lode runner 2? It's amazing, but it doesn't work on x64 systems, unfortunately.
They have a mapmaker and all sorts of traps, it's a great game.
I still have the original cd in my cabinet somewhere, I didn't save any part of it other than the jewel case and the cd. I have no idea where the jewel case is.
This isn't so much an oddity, as an interesting CQ review. I liked it for the candid, honest feelings the author had. Read it here (http://www.thegamehippo.com/game.php?Game=1669340).
Quote from: matthias720 on January 17, 2010, 04:39:55 PM
This isn't so much an oddity, as an interesting CQ review. I liked it for the candid, honest feelings the author had. Read it here (http://www.thegamehippo.com/game.php?Game=1669340).
Aww, that's a great review! It brings me back to my younger days. :)
It was a good review!
SoupHat is credit to team!